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Hello?

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Mr. Cronow-Lonk?

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Yeah.

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This is William W. Orr.

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I'm from Hackman, calling from Hackman.

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And I'm with the Flying Fuzzer Investigating Committee here.

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I suppose you've had your share of this kind of call, haven't you?

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Oh, okay.

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Quite a bit.

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Yeah, I have.

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So we were real, real interested in your story because the Cleveland plane dealer carried

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one account and then the big internal carried another account.

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Yeah.

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And I was quite interested to have you a few minutes to share what was there.

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Yeah, I'll tell you in a minute.

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All right.

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Would you tell me when the original story occurred?

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I'd like to explain to you, I don't know what you heard or what you read.

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But with our safety benefit of my family, I was now we've labored at a home.

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And in the end of the day with an official investigation comes after the case otherwise,

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and after it comes after.

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And we are certainly not laboring anything hopeless as such, you know, because we've

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had too much experience with the whole relationship with UFOs and close contacts.

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Yeah.

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But would you briefly just tell me what the whole background story is?

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Well, back in the breakaway, I thought I was up to half the volume.

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It was not spoken at that day.

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It was just a minute and a half.

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One thing they told my kitchen is high out here.

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They didn't have any wings on it.

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I mean, the plane was flat.

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Now everybody's on the plane here and the force is running.

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And I don't know whether it's in the sound or not.

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But a little later on March the 21st, I was managing the town of Fields,

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the Greek-American Fields, and I'd been a part of the South-South Company staff.

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He was going north-west traveling roughly 50 miles per hour.

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And he was about 200 feet over the ground.

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And I think it was about 100 feet long, just like the Fields around, not the Fields.

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And the front came out to a blunt point.

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The color was dark green.

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And the plodimentary, let's see, so March the 31st, I ran up on a family of dog logists

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in a road here close to the house.

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I was under the impression that it was about to arrive for the personnel

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working on some type of equipment.

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I was climbing this just down the road.

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I was laying down here in the same area, and I thought,

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well, it's better to get into this life here than to have the personnel be sitting and working.

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And I really was.

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I didn't see anybody approach the South-South Company, or approach the South-South Company or something,

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or sometimes the rest of the bio-community.

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And when I went back, I think that the road around it was never looking off.

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It was the same thing.

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That thing was previously on March the 21st.

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And on April the 11th, on this March the 31st,

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the Air Force came over and made investigation.

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Several law personnel made investigation, and none of them would tell me the Air Force and anybody what it was.

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Well, did Mr. Hainick talk to you personally?

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He didn't say a thing, though, huh?

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Yeah.

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He didn't say a thing.

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He didn't tell me what it was.

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So I was still around in the area on April the 11th.

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I got on a small one, and it was transferred to another one.

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They gave an investigation to him, and they put back in that another one.

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And left that judge in the back of the page.

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And that's just, towards my time, it's just a long-drawn out phrase.

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Yeah, well, no, were you actually in space?

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The only answer I'd give, that was changed.

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I had to be there.

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And there was definitely no, there wasn't any window, not 50m, I mean 1-up.

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Well, now how did you make the transfer between objects?

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It's done through some type of metal, too.

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It was roughly, it was roughly 4-upended metal about 5-9-8-8-1.

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And it was, the small one was from the wall.

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I don't know where it went into the basement, but it was from the wall in the small one.

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And no one did this transaction, say?

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Uh, no.

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They had to figure that out about, let's see, now it's 30 hours and 40 minutes.

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Now where were the representatives from, were they from White Patterson?

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They were from, I'll say, the Alps of the Air Force Base in here, about 46 miles north of Memphis from where I live.

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And they came over and investigated and smacked the right-hand Air Force Base.

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Well, you know there's some very interested people over there at the Kelly Air Force Base.

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Did you know this?

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No.

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I had occasion to talk with some Kelly Air Force people a couple of years ago.

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And it was quite an experience for me over at San Antonio.

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Oh, was that a problem?

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Which is quite a ways from you.

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Yeah.

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So actually then, what, in the lie detector test, what actually altered your story?

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Well, I was going through the process of trying to get some prominent evaluation before,

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in fact, where you leave Kelly, the consumer.

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And the planning told me, the company backed the right-handers, the planning given.

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And the judge, the planning, he just, I guess, roughly an hour or something like that.

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And he wanted to see the pictures that I had taken.

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Well, I just, I believe, five or six weeks up there.

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And he just, five or six weeks, I'm like that, to rub some capital analysis.

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And then, in time, he was just falling through the papers, I say, falling through the papers.

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They threw them over.

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They got wind over there, what was going on.

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And he came down here, spooking around, and went back just to explain what's found out.

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Well, when he came out here and talked to me, I told him I wasn't telling anything until I got some type of some kind of evaluation.

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And that's when he goes to Professor Heineck and gets some type of evaluation.

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Well, they call Professor Heineck and insisted on some type of evaluation.

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And he would give me some, some help in a thing.

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And he sent the associated plan that he had proposed up here right after that, about a week,

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and they, something like that, asked the judge, and his investigation,

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and sent him all the information, sending him, letting him evaluate it.

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They gathered all the information.

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We'd like to follow up with this, and we'd like to send this depicture to the Colorado Corporation for Applementary Ways.

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And the Colorado, I mean, the Colorado National Department sent us the clear board date.

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And we had sent up the five of us, the funding ambulance, well, the associated plan for the union,

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and the United Press is in, well, 80, 52, say, approximately.

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And the United Press just went a little by-boy to go on and come up here,

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and went out with a short story, the undisputed associated plan.

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Well, they wanted to see the F10 to 11 o'clock, let's see, 11 o'clock, I think, if we could just make it.

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And I agree, let's see, it's about 9 o'clock, 30 minutes.

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I got a friend who's going to call, that maybe he said, if I went to the Colorado Breastcare,

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my family would be in great danger.

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I didn't know what maybe he was a kid, and I didn't think too much about it.

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And about 10 o'clock, they called me and told me we had to set up for 11 o'clock in the center of the morning.

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And then he left me with the rest of the 425 miles from here, and I went back,

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and I got up early, and left, and I stepped 30, and I had went,

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and I had went back 35, 40 miles from there, and the area that I was in, was Philly.

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Now, what else? Over top of here, down from Philly, there was a car stop,

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so in the over-over, and a woman standing down in the opposite lane,

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with the door waving the first.

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Well, there was an apple over in the opposite lane,

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and stopped, and she had a black, black-ass system, and I thought,

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and set out, and walked up to them, and drove to them from the car,

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and I asked her, and she said, and I thought to her,

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well, I heard something, and I was behind.

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Then I was knocked down, and hit the road, and I was knocked down,

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and I rolled over, and it blew me in.

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One time, in the dark, and either black or blue, there was a gray,

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and it was everyone in the ground, and they told me that if you're fine,

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you can go with the father-in-law, and pass it, and I was back in fact.

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Well, I went on down, well, and the old father-in-law said,

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and described my past, and I was going to do my,

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this is the traveling distance, and all this, and I was hoping.

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Well, they had all the information on me,

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and they had all the information there with me.

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Then I was going, I guess, and I had no experience,

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I had no experience with photographs, or anything, on that order,

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and he said I couldn't come up with anything like that myself.

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So then all this discussion, the doors, all of the staff members were back,

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and the associate's friends, here's the first reporter,

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and I remember the first time that the water was set up there,

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and I was writing all this stuff down.

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And the examiner, after a final extension, said it was hoped,

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I said, well, I'll come out on TV, and just give a short statement,

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that I, if you're a part of that determination,

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and if you're the one that you learned, and said it was a hope.

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What, did you actually take the test?

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Yes, yes, I just, no, I'm just, as you were taking the test,

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what did you do to make it short, for example?

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Well, I don't know anything about the photos out there,

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but the stuff he stepped on, he, just made it like he worked off electricity.

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Yeah, that was, it was time he asked me a question that was relevant to that.

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I would attempt and increase the tension.

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I know what that had in fact always been about,

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but we did it in the case of some of the questions that he asked.

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Our line, it shows that I lied about some of the questions that he did not get,

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and that he can't drive all of them on TV.

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Did you tell them ahead of the test, that there's a good hat on the way out there?

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No, I did not.

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I told him, there's a flash that's off the front page,

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and I never hear the answer.

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When I know this is a story, finally, great time.

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Well, this wind, he's worked the examiner,

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and he came out on TV every short statement.

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And then, of course, the associated blasts were sent out there,

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the associated blasts that he exposed, that he wrote about all of you,

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were sent out there, listened to what we were discussing,

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both of them discussing stuff, and they were all down and up and down.

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Well, no, of course, you didn't reveal at that time that you were the type that

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you'd been stopped on the road?

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No, I didn't.

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You were the type.

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But then how did they get involved with that part of it?

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Well, I came back home, and as I got home,

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I called the police department and reported them.

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Now, what had happened to me?

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And if anything happened to me,

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it was they would know that there's nothing that's not done as they think.

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And about that, that's the end of the story.

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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something's pretty long in that area.

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That's nice, that's nice.

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I have three words, though,

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and they told you what,

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they brought 15, 40 minutes before I told him,

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and I got up, went outside,

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to see what he was talking about,

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and his highway was in front of my house,

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a bar on the monster road,

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and as the car stepped down from the house,

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drove by on his yard,

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and I could see the blackout man and his step-man,

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no light.

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The last of what happened that morning,

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I came back to the house, got a gun,

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went back outside, got behind the storm shelter,

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and in a little bit by this car,

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came on by the house, running through,

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and no light went on up somewhere,

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turned around, and came back back,

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filled with no light.

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The other blackout man,

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he was cornered in the house,

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and he bought a great shot.

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For a long time, he'd shoot man up,

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and I don't know how many times they shot,

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back to where they used to be, or what.

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But I shot back,

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and being on the back,

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I just went ahead and told what had happened.

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Did you have any bullets,

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or had lights anywhere near you?

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No.

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We'd hit 90 bullets to hit a round road.

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We found where the,

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I guess the ballpark snail found

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where the car sat around.

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But we'd hit 90 in place

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where the head round road was made.

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And you don't have any evidence

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that you hit them, either, huh?

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Well, certainly it's an interesting story.

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Have you had any threats on yourself?

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Is that for you?

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They are conducting a visual investigation out of this,

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and I was talking to one of the investigators,

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Jackie, and I talked to a police in an umbrella.

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And for all of them,

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I guess it was about an hour,

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that's something like that, I kind of told.

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So, forging me not to get it stirred up again.

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I reached out of my hands,

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there was a visual investigation,

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and it began, and they were continuing.

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They were already hit in the tank.

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Now, who does this involve? The FBI?

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No, the University of Colorado.

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Oh, I see, they're in on a doctor's conduct.

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Yeah.

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There were three investigators down here,

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on Monday morning.

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And they went around, oh, they,

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I don't know what all they done,

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but they are done with the interstit,

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and they've had to have been sent to the University of Colorado.

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And of course, I don't know what all they're doing.

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They told me they'd come up with something,

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probably a conversation with someone.

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Now, have you made copies of the photos?

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No, no.

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Oh, this is unfortunate, I think it should have.

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Because now you don't have anything at all, do you?

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No, I have certified mail.

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I'll have certified mail for the disease.

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And they promised to send them back to you?

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Yeah.

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Well, I would have sent the University,

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would keep the word on that.

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I wouldn't have done it quite so sure.

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Other agencies had gotten it, but I think they would.

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Yeah.

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Well, they think they're lucky that it was overfined

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on these three investigators being in the community several times.

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They didn't have them before, that people had been threatened.

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And the state and the family were just involved

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and they were going to get the whole thing.

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Do you know who the people were from the University?

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They've been here.

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Let's see, the one that was just here by the hotline

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is Captain Robert Fox.

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Oh, yes.

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He's the Coast Office Fox one.

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He's the Coast Office one.

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Yeah, I've heard the same before.

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Yeah.

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And another one, that's the state-owned quarter.

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Well, I'm not acquainted with him.

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He is the private detective of the Kelp Crop phenomenon.

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And James H. Hartley, Special Chief of the F.E.A.L.D.

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and the investigation is quite, quite nice.

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And basement was sent in from Dr. Cahn?

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Yeah, I'm not sure.

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We missed anything that you think would be a special interest here

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and the experience you had while aboard the craft?

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Well, I was on that thing for roughly an hour and a half.

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It was, you can tell actually what happened.

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It would be pretty long.

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I'll then get to enjoy right now what happened.

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If you would please.

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They were on March 31st.

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Whatever, or whoever else thought they were in that target,

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it was a warning for our last, I mean, six or five and a half years.

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And on the April 11th, I was in a big uproar

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and a road going up to Lake Farm now.

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And we got there, they were around six years ago,

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it was like, like, like an hour.

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Now, we were landing at 9, and I didn't say much.

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But I started with work.

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Well, I had been in line just about that time in the experience.

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And I stepped out and picked up a hundred round plates from the back.

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And there was a craft about 30 feet long,

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15 feet high, six cameras to an A.

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And definitely was flat on the bottom and was top.

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It had some kind of bubble plastic seal on top of it.

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And the door was open.

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Two men standing on the steps, two men standing, looking out the door.

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And one of them said,

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let's go and let you take your physical examination.

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Well, I had two jobs exactly to get on as I take out of this plastic seal.

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And, please, they had already been caught in the area,

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and had to be found something.

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And I didn't think I'd have much time going out of the car, just thank the Lord.

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So I asked them, if they had a harmony in any way,

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and they said no.

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And I asked them, if they'd bring me back.

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And they said, we were bringing drinks and things.

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So they stepped down, the other two stepped back in the door,

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and stepped out, and saw just what it was.

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And I went up the steps, the 72 came up, and the two,

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they were never kept in the car with them, came over,

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and told me to step down in their car.

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It was them that took a reclining pass here.

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They stepped the way the car was going.

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And I did step down in.

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I went, well, behind, standing side to behind.

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And they were 400 kids under us, just two.

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And they took kids, and they were going to pop this seal out for step down in.

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And there was some cold down there, close to one of them.

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They all went out, went over, and then they all sat down,

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and they did the usual flacky and something.

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They made it that way.

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And the blast of Elstos was way.

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Well, the one that was done that close to them,

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that's the old battle, just up in that panel.

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And it felt as like it was in good just under.

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I was in that room with the kids and all,

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and I was thrown back into the pit,

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thrown down on the floor in that pit.

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And I just, I just get up, and if I go into that,

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you'll win that kid.

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But they got the floor over the door.

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They got the, the gun is blown down.

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It's got that little stuff somewhere.

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And they come over there and help me get over that kid,

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and they all crossed my knees and walked across the pit,

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and they all came back.

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They went back and fell out of the pit,

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and they all came back, they all came back,

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and the old boys turned up to them,

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and that's the, the cold down.

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And it felt as if it was in the pool.

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And just the old time after it started,

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there was some type of a hot day quiet.

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It started out, somebody started out high.

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And my wife just left me a minute.

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And we had moved on travel for roughly five minutes,

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and it started getting cold in there.

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It got three years old, so I got out there,

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and I was traveling for a winter time,

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but I got out 30, 35 feet,

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and I told them I was dead, and I was eight.

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And when it started getting cold,

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I noticed it started to go down,

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and they took roughly ten minutes

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to get back to the camp site where I was when I first went in.

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Well, we could have a little bit of time to 20 minutes,

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and it all seemed to be used,

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and just the cold time went to the second.

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And I heard four mechanics coming from the side

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of the rocket between these two gears on each end.

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And it's just a short time after they quit.

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Well, they got a battle with the gears,

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come over and they're buckled up,

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they fell from the gear up,

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and they roll between these two gears on each end,

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and they're back and reveal the tunnel.

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There's a dozen of them, five feet, nine,

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around, black, gold-gade metal,

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and about the eight feet.

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And one of the electricals in here,

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fell, he led way,

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and then went to the end,

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and then went to the end of it,

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and as we went to the other side,

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I found right.

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Well, I looked at the left and found right,

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and I think four lines of some type of weapons,

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there's roughly, let's see, there's roughly

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about three inches in length.

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About twelve inches,

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about a half-claw.

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There was a large gear,

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three large gears, roughly five inches,

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around, and there was probably

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about a half-stick and a half-claw.

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And there were a bunch of

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shotguns, and there was a bunch of these

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around and fit, and fit and hold,

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like so, and I was just,

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with a rod, and a center,

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and a ratchet.

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We got a ratchet there,

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and it went all four-five inches,

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and it was pretty.

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So that's the AMS station,

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and the open-air's for door,

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but I didn't stay a door,

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and then there was a frost stop,

417
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and so many doors,

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and many compartments,

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and most of the problem too.

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And when I stepped in there,

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it looked like a frost,

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and it was the same type of room

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that I had to stay in place at the door.

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So that's the office on March 31st.

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Just inside the door, there's two men,

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and they came over to me,

427
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and they were conducting a survey,

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and were appreciative of their

429
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actual operation,

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and that's the impregnable examination.

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They spoke two years in English.

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Yes, uh-huh.

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And at that time,

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I didn't have any choice.

435
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000
So we went on down to Brooklyn,

436
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000
and the center was,

437
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
and there was a meeting down there.

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00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000
They had me down to there,

439
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
and as part of this,

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00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
it was in Brooklyn,

441
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000
they got 69,

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,000
and first they sent me to Whiting.

443
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
And they had me just straight to the hundredth,

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00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000
and first we had to complete it,

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00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
and then we had to just change it,

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which was helped in the process.

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00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000
And there was a large,

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so-called switch on the left-hand side,

449
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about four or five feet,

450
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
something like that.

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And they pulled it down,

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and there's two lines to come on.

453
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,000
There's definitely a hand-to-foot,

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and they came to something like that from the top.

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And there was a narrow band of brass and brass between them.

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There's a top on the right-hand side,

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about three feet from the bottom.

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And so he turned until they'd say,

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00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000
right, and went together in the center.

460
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
And when they went together in the center,

461
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000
they were long, flexible,

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00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
top of their mission, top of their field,

463
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
and out of their field.

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00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000
And he just came out of the industry,

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00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
and he came out and laid down the suggestions again.

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And one about everything.

467
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Well, in all this process,

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the other band, the one that made the end of the show,

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was now, nice and heavy, and it's been existing.

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He did with,

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well, the top of it was used down.

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Instead of being six feet high,

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00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000
it was used down to about a thousand feet.

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00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,000
And it's hanging on now to about eight feet.

475
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:57,000
And out of the, and what it was about,

476
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
it was about four feet high.

477
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,000
There's a piece of paper coming out about eight feet wide.

478
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,000
And one thing to be in control,

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00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,000
this paper is,

480
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
he's been in, he's walked down with that paper,

481
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
then he walked back with it,

482
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000
and he just back to school with all that.

483
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,000
And they had to stand in front of it,

484
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
not five minutes.

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00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:28,000
He's been, to have them to turn around,

486
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
and put it back in,

487
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000
and then he's done something to resolve

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00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,000
and then stand there and talk to the assignment.

489
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,000
And when he's sober,

490
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000
we're told we'll get to that.

491
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000
Now that's a,

492
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a gross way to put it.

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00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000
And the other band,

494
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000
let's just paint the run,

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00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000
I don't know, not the run,

496
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it's later on, I think it's later on,

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it's a short time.

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And then,

499
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000
pull it off,

500
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,000
and left it,

501
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000
it always,

502
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000
and left it always on,

503
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000
in a time where I've been,

504
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
and it kind of,

505
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,000
it kind of,

506
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000
kind of dies.

507
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000
And we've never got all I can tell now,

508
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000
it's eight pounds overweight.

509
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Well, they told me it's just left,

510
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
and they,

511
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
they've seen them with 90,

512
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,000
with 90,

513
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,000
with 90,

514
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,000
with 90,

515
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000
and stayed or was,

516
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000
not over with,

517
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000
but I got dressed,

518
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000
and looked around in that room,

519
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,000
and,

520
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000
in that important room,

521
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000
there was this,

522
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000
a chair behind it,

523
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,000
and a mouthful of stuff there,

524
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
a lovely, gross way,

525
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000
for a mouthful of things,

526
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,000
to charge and to drink in front of there,

527
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
and on the right hand,

528
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,000
of course,

529
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,000
there was a pencil in a,

530
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000
a book,

531
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
very nice and simple,

532
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000
and some papers,

533
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,000
with writing,

534
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000
some type of writing,

535
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,000
and with paperweight,

536
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000
some kind of paperweight,

537
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000
man, on down to the paper.

538
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Well,

539
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
I could mean it,

540
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000
it would be a writing to know,

541
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000
and a paperweight had some type of,

542
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
some type of,

543
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000
crazy or extreme,

544
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000
and it was about to,

545
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000
about to read the book,

546
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000
and it was about to know,

547
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
read, read, read, read,

548
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000
and I picked it up,

549
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,000
and,

550
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
looked to see if she,

551
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
the man had had a partner,

552
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000
and looked to see if she,

553
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,000
my friend,

554
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,000
wanted to see,

555
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,000
maybe something,

556
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000
find,

557
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000
and see if there,

558
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
if there was any department,

559
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
and looked to see what I was doing.

560
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000
I just,

561
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,000
he was full of,

562
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000
through that opening,

563
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000
but,

564
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
I think she didn't make this,

565
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,000
she made it,

566
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000
and I picked the paperweight out,

567
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000
and I put it on the inside part of,

568
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000
the inside part of the book,

569
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000
and we see,

570
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000
several,

571
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000
and the inside part of the book,

572
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000
and good thing it gets short time,

573
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000
and one of the men,

574
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
that,

575
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,000
that's taking,

576
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,000
and that's up there,

577
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000
and that's,

578
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,000
short,

579
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,000
uh,

580
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000
crowd,

581
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,000
now he's well-pinned,

582
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,000
really,

583
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
well-predited over to me,

584
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,000
and,

585
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000
put his hand in the pocket,

586
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000
like it's gonna make me face the weight out.